Help with MT

[demosthenes]

MT is giving me an error whenever I try to make a thumbnail with it, but not when I upload an image. They (insider hosting) think it is a misconfiguration because it is a 500 error. So any known fixes?

[Sara]

Hi,

Usually when you have a 500 error with MT it's because something isn't CHMODed correctly. Double and triple check those.

Make sure your machine that you are hosted on has the Image::Magick installed. :)

Sara

[Steven]

Image::magick is indeed installed on all of our servers. :)
www.insidersupport.com/cgi-bin/perldiver/perldiver.cgi for the server that this site is hosted on.

-Steven

[harmonic]

hey demo nice to see you aboard ;)

[demosthenes]

hey harmonic.

does anyone else have this problem that uses mt on the porsche server? I don't think it has anything to do with how I set it up because I have set it up multiple times without this problem, and double checked all the chmoded files... it's something else. on the mt board other people mention the same problem, and their hosts mentioned that it uses to much cpu, so it is deactivated every time. I was hoping that someone would at least know the cause of the problem on this host.. or have the same problem.

[Sara]

Sorry you are having a problem with MT. I never had a problem installing it though.

I recently went to b2, it runs quicker for me and easier to install, run a group blog and do templates. :)

[ed_lynn]

demo,

i just installed mt and am having the same upload image problem. i have submitted a help desk ticket and am awaiting a response. please, anyone, if you hear something let me know.

thanks

ed

ps i am also on the porsche server

[g808]

I'm new to Insider Hosting and am running MT 2.21 on my site. I haven't had any problems uploading images and/or creating thumbnails.

Apparently I'm on the ferrari server.

[Stacey]

I'm using MT on the porsche server too, but it was such a headache to install I haven't even tried uploading images...hmm, now I'm curious! :D

[Sara]

I did have problems when I first came to IH. I had to break them all in on the ways of MT. :) They installed Magick and all was right with the world. I do remember being happy that I could do all that I wanted.

Do you have Image Size installed? Double check that as well.

Maybe, just maybe it's not all installed? I have no idea what server I am on, but I haven't had any problems at all.

[Aaron]

Just as a heads up. Two of the hosts i contacted before moving to IH, plus my former host, have all three told me they installed Image::Magick but are having trouble getting it to work. Maybe a buggy release? Anyway, with the next release of MT, due out this month, thumbnails can be created using NetPBM tools.

[Sara]

Thanks for that info, Aaron! NetPBM is what b2 uses. I just put them all in a gallery now.

[eyephoto]

I appear to be getting the same problem as most of you.

I'm currently using MT v.2.62 and when I try to upload an image and create a thumbnail in MT I get an error of 500. I can upload images without a problem using either ImageMagick or NetPBM. The problem is with the thumbnail creation. I did find the perl mods on the server that are required for this script to work.

Are any of you successful with the thumbnail feature? I don't think that the problem is with my configuration because all else works, but then again I could be wrong?

Unfortunately, NetPBM does not have a resize and create thumbnail feature. Or is there a newer version out there that does have this capability?

-eric

[Aaron]

Sorry, Eyephoto. I use MT 2.62 but I've never tried to do the thumbnail thing. I usually just use EasyThumnails if I need to do something like that, and then link it to the regular sized photo the old fashioned way.

Easy thumnails is by the same guy who writes NoteTab. It is free and available here: Easy Thumbnails (http://www.fookes.com/ezthumbs/index.html)

[eyephoto]

Thanks for the tip Aaron! I am going to give it a try right now. Out of curiousity, are you able to perform the task (error free) that I have been trying to do?

Thanks again,
Eric

[pete3005]

Disclaimer:: I'm just a customer on Porsche so take this post as that, I am not speaking for IH.

Sorry guys but MT is a load of crap, reason it is that is eats almost *ALL* the CPU and slows the server down and shoots the load up. It is one badly written script -FACT.

You guys would be much better looking for a PHP/MySQL version. I believe that Sara moved to a PHP/MySQL solution.

I wish Steven would ban MT, if I keep seeing high loads and low CPU idle when I login to SSH I will simply put in a ticket everytime to Steven. Using scripts that eat up all resources for everyone is both selfish and damaging to everyone on the server and IH.

Sorry to be harsh, no offense meant to anyone, but the above is FACT not opinion.

Pete

[lazydesert]

Wow, I never knew that about MT. Have you done a lot of benchmarking? How much faster and how much less of a load are the alternatives? I've been using MT for almost a year now, and I never knew that I was bogging other people down . .. I'm sorry .. :(

[Sara]

I have a free blog hosting domain and I finally had to take MT off of it as it was using too many resources! My bandwidth on that domain has gone down so much with only 6 people on it that I added 6 more! That's really significant.

I moved to b2, which I have been playing with since last June and started blogging with in August. You can download it at: www.cafelog.com for the newest version.

It's quick, effecient and doesn't make me rebuild things each time I change one thing in a template. I do everything via FTP (gotta love Cute FTP, S! :D) and I'm in love with it. I have tutorials for it here: www.graphics-by-sara.com click on tutorials, then b2. Even how to install it!

Ask me about it, I will go on and on... :guess:

[pete3005]

Originally posted by lazydesert
Wow, I never knew that about MT. Have you done a lot of benchmarking? How much faster and how much less of a load are the alternatives? I've been using MT for almost a year now, and I never knew that I was bogging other people down . .. I'm sorry .. :(

Hi Lazydesert,

Just to clarify when logged in to SSH and running TOP I see the evidence of MT, mt_rebuild.cgi eats about 70% CPU, now assuming the average CPU idle is between 60 and 80% that means that MT eats far more than its fair share. I guess if only 2 or 3 people use it then its not a big problem but if many do it can be responsible for poor server performance.

Now I'm not suggesting that Porsche is overloaded or over strained, it isn't but when load spikes do occur, MT is usually the culprit. Steven has installed a much needed script killer and that may be killing the MT scripts before they finish resulting in problems.

Sara is the 'Blog Mistress' and I am sure she could help you move to a PHP version.

Like I say I am just a customer, so this in no way means you have to stop using MT. However it is not efficient and I know from www.webhostingtalk.com other hosts have banned it.

If it were me with MT I would perhaps think about moving to a PHP solution, since Sara knows her stuff, if the one she uses works for her then I am sure its an excellent alternative.

Pete :)

[StateDOG]

I've been exploring some options for a blogging software. It seems that b2 might have ceased ongoing development. I may be wrong, but there's a new php/mysql script that seems to be gaining a lot of popularity.

pMachine (http://www.pmachine.com) is taking off. Give it a look. Tell me what you think. I think there's even a conversion script from MT. But I'm still trying to decide between MT and pM.

StateDOG

[Aaron]

Originally posted by pete3005
Like I say I am just a customer, so this in no way means you have to stop using MT. However it is not efficient and I know from www.webhostingtalk.com other hosts have banned it. Could you post some links to specific threads at webhostingtalk.com? I went there and did a search for "movabletype ban" and every alternate spelling I could think of and couldn't find anything. I did a search for just "movabletype" and couldn't find any threads where a webhost said they were banning MT, nor did I see any posts where anyone was complaining about MT a resource drain.

I think the problem with MT is that when you rebuild your site it defaults to "rebuild all files" when all people really need to do is "rebuild index files," which they could easily do by selecting that option from the pull-down. So, either people are just lazy, or they don't know that option exists. The MT developers should change the rebuild process so that "rebuild indexes only" is the default.

[Sara]

I looked at pMachine, but I was turned off to the fact that I had to register the name I wanted to blog with.

I love b2 and how I can run as many blogs as I want from the same MySQL database. Besides I'm so used to it now, why change?

Aaron, there are a lot of things that they should change with MT. It would have been nice if it was built from the ground up with PHP and MySQL, then, maybe there wouldn't have been so many problems and lack of support was one of the main reasons I left.

b2 is easier for me as I do everything via FTP and I hate the templates. I still post on a few blogs running MT as I'm in group blogs. It's just so weird...